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From Spectacles to Sparkles: Laura Draycott's Miss Senior World Pageant Story

• Luke Menkes / Laura Draycott • Season 4 • Episode 241

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Today on Episode 241 of the I Love Kelowna Podcast, we have an incredibly inspiring conversation with Laura Draycott, a retired optician and business owner turned pageant queen. You'll be moved by her incredible journey, from her humble beginnings to becoming a part of the Miss Senior World Pageant. Laura’s story is one of motivation, resilience, and grace, as she encourages us to embrace aging and seize every opportunity that comes our way.

We have an intriguing look into the world of pageantry, including the intense makeup, high heels, and gowns one must wear. Laura details how she is using her platform to encourage positivity and empowerment among senior women.

Get inspired by Laura's zest for life and her dedication to representing Canada in the upcoming pageant in Biloxi, Mississippi.

Laura nominates Natisha Duffy - Train with Tish, Jenny McKinney - Makeup Artist, and Stephen Maser - Aura Wealth Management for future episodes of I Love Kelowna Podcast. 

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Speaker 1:

This is episode 241 of the I Love Kelowna podcast, and today I am here with Laura Drake Gott. She is a former chiropractor, a retired optician. Here in Kelowna, she's a community volunteer and she's done various fundraisers, including Powderhounds Adaptive Ski Program. She was born in Hamilton, raised in Calgary, and in her youth she was a competitive gymnast, a dancer, a model and a CFL cheerleader. And today we're going to talk all about 2023, miss Senior World Canada, a pageant that Laura is involved in.

Speaker 2:

Kelowna, one of the most beautiful places in the world to live, surrounded by provincial parks, pine forests, vineyards, orchards and mountains. Wouldn't it be great if there was a podcast about our love of Kelowna? Oh no, it's real. This is I Love Kelowna an interview style podcast about the fabulous and fascinating people that make up our great city and the Okanagan. Intimate conversations with entrepreneurs, executives, thought leaders, creatives and anyone who has an interesting story to tell about how they're contributing to our wonderful home. This is I Love Kelowna. And here's your host, luke J Minkus.

Speaker 1:

Laura, it's great to see you. It's been a little over five years since you were on the show. It was 2018, july 2018, and that was episode 14.

Speaker 3:

Wow, and this is episode 241. Oh, almost 214, almost 200. Right, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Crazy. Well have you been. I've seen you a couple of times since then.

Speaker 3:

Life is really good, I think. Back then I was. I had a business, an eyeglasses store, and was working there. I've since sold that and retired and now I'm on a new adventure.

Speaker 1:

Nice, so I know you were born in Hamilton, grew up in Calgary. When did you move to Kelowna?

Speaker 3:

We moved here just over 12 years ago, and so brand new city, didn't know anyone. Brand new start of life and reeducated myself to become an optician. I worked at a few stores as an optician and then decided to open my own store and that was the next 10 years of my life, and now I got another 10 years that I'm kind of planning and adventuring into.

Speaker 1:

Right, so you are part of the Miss Senior World Pageant. Tell us about that. Tell us what got you into that and what made you decide to apply.

Speaker 3:

So I was. I was searching for something that after after I retired I was, I was really busy during the ski season. I had lots to occupy my time then, but I have trouble sitting still. So I was just online searching for what I might be good at, what I would love to do, and I was thinking about the days when I was, you know, early twenties and in my teens, and I was modeling and I really loved doing that, and there was really nothing out there, for now I'm 59.

Speaker 3:

So I'm basically a senior in the consermia, a senior woman, and there was really nothing out there. And I I had some negative um ageism type comments saying, well, you're, you're dreaming at 59, you know what, 59 year washed up, you're done, just be an old person. And I'm like, well, I'm not ready to do that. I think I still can maybe make a difference and be an inspiration in some way. So I found this pageant online. It was the only one that was open to women um 50 to 79. And I applied and I I'm in the 50 to 59 category. So there's three divisions 50 to 59, 60 to 69 and 70 to 79. And so I am Miss Senior World Canada in the 50. Uh, your old division and I will be competing in Biloxi, mississippi, in two months.

Speaker 1:

Incredible Up the Miss.

Speaker 3:

Senior World pageant.

Speaker 1:

Incredible. Did you get a letter in the mail? I got more than a letter.

Speaker 3:

I got a crown that sparkles and it's heavy and it's and I've got I got a sash with actual like sewn satin with rhinestones, so it's it's pretty impressive. They take their pageants pretty seriously down in the US and I love it. I want to be a part of this and I'd love to bring it up to Canada. I love. I love that it celebrates senior women and it doesn't. It isn't revolved around the uh, the beauty of youth, because there is beauty in age as well.

Speaker 1:

And I want to be part of that. That's incredible. So you didn't know you were selected until you got this box. No, I knew I was selected before that I see, so they notify you and you got all this stuff. Is it um how long? What can you tell us about the pageant? Is it something that's been going on for a long time? Are most countries represented?

Speaker 3:

It's um, so I don't know. They aren't announcing all of the delegates until I think, about a week from now, that all of the selected um, ladies and queens from different states and different countries will be up on their website, but I know that it's only this is their fourth year, so it's fairly new, I think. Uh, I feel like I'm kind of getting in on the ground level which I love, because that's kind of what I love to do is build.

Speaker 3:

Uh, I love to build my business. I love to be creative, but I love to get into new things and watch them grow and and be a part of developing, um, the kind of a unique pageantry kind of a thing I'm like I'm excited to be a part of it, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Have you been to Biloxi before, or Mississippi? No, I don't know much about it, but I think it's a city roughly the size of Kelowna Okay, like a mid-sized city.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

And if it's a world pageant, maybe you could talk to them and have it in Kelowna in the future.

Speaker 3:

Well, I'm thinking too as it grows. I can see 20 years from now will be like a Miss World or Miss Universe, where it's huge and all countries are represented and we'll have to have a, uh, a preliminary provincial in Canada and then inter-provincial, so we actually have contests in each province and then in Canada globally that are maybe even televised and and uh, who knows where it could go. Is this?

Speaker 1:

is it going to be televised?

Speaker 3:

It's going to be live streamed and I'm not sure we uh. I haven't been notified of how or when or where. I just know that it's uh, we all compete. It's on November 3rd and if you make the top, I think it's 10, then you go on and you re-compete again on November 4th.

Speaker 1:

Right Interesting. So, uh, is it a two day event or three days?

Speaker 3:

It's it's more like five. So we get there. There's events, uh, there's dinners, there's appearances, Um, it'll be a really interesting, fun adventure.

Speaker 1:

Right, well, it sounds super exciting. Um, are there any platform issues that you're passionate about that you want to share at the pageant? So I guess you're going to have to get up on stage. They're going to interview you. There's different parts of this event.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. So the interview with the panel of judges counts for 30% of your mark. Your evening gown is 30% of your mark, your fitness runway outfit is a 20% of your mark and your own personal fashion New York style runway outfit is another 20% of your mark. So, as far as the um 30% interview goes, you sit down, not on stage but off stage, with a panel of judges and they um ask you questions.

Speaker 3:

My platform it for this Miss Senior World pageant and is basically my how I got to where I am in life and the way I live my life is the power of saying yes.

Speaker 3:

So I just say yes to everything that I can and usually it turns out wonderfully and you get new experiences and you learn about yourself and you meet new people and your life just grows from there. And I think it's really important to keep saying yes to new opportunities and new experiences. Especially, we found out during COVID how there was nothing to say yes to and we were all just saying there wasn't just a big prison of no and you just sat there and there was nothing to do and um, people have found out that that's not super healthy. So I think as we age, it's very easy to kind of slip into saying no, I can't do that, I won't do that, but I think you need to just keep pushing, keep saying yes, keep experiencing new things and you know what. If you don't like it, then you learn something about yourself, you learn. You learn what you're not as well as what you are.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, Um, so you mentioned there's different outfits, so it really is a beauty pageant. And you mentioned there's a fitness outfit that you have to display. How have you picked all your outfits yet? Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 3:

I don't, I don't have 100% my gown yet.

Speaker 1:

I see.

Speaker 3:

I'm struggling with that one, right, but I have definitely been working on my fashion outfit I've created it myself, um and my fitness outfit they instead of doing like a bikini. There is no bathing suit, but you could if that's what, if you were a swimmer, and that's how you stayed fit and you wanted to wear a bathing suit on stage and model that you know what good on. Yet go for it. I don't, but I can't swim, so that's not my thing. Right, I've created a very Canadian outfit.

Speaker 1:

What.

Speaker 3:

I'm picking ski. Yes, the ski. I'm a big skier.

Speaker 1:

So I have a.

Speaker 3:

Of course it's not going to be like my skis and my boots, because those won't fit in the overhead bin, but I have created an outfit that's kind of an inspired ski look.

Speaker 1:

I see We'll call it that. It's really cool because it's in the Southern us and I think people that'll be eye catching for sure. And I noticed on your Instagram you're doing all kinds of fitness stuff. Was this something you were? I know you were a gymnast when you were younger and a cheerleader for the CFL, but is this something you know since you've been 40, 50, then you've kept up with, because I didn't notice all the fitness videos on your Instagram before.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. So you know, my Instagram before was all about the store. That was my life. I lived it, I breathed it. I had to sell glasses. That was the inspiration behind my previous social media. So when I retired, I kind of had to start my own Instagram and it was pretty lame, I wasn't really posting a lot. And then I entered this pageant and actually while I was skiing, a friend of mine she's an online trainer, she is amazing she's. She has this whole program developed. You just need like bands and a couple of free weights and maybe a bench and you do it all at home. And she said Laura, I would like to sponsor you, I want to give you my fitness program and I want you to do it so that you look your best for the pageant. And so part of me is going yeah, I really should, because I you know, when you work that much and you own your own business, it's really hard to keep up with fitness, I mean.

Speaker 1:

I go for a walk every day.

Speaker 3:

But you know, you know I was fit ish. So I started this strength training program with her and I've been doing it for about four or five months now and it's been amazing the changes and I realize how much I needed it and how good it's been for me and I feel great. So I'm really thankful to her. She's been a great sponsor and a good like mentor to me.

Speaker 1:

That's really good to hear, because it looks like you've obviously got a professional trainer and some of the things that you're doing.

Speaker 1:

I'd like to ask you a little bit about that, because I go for regular walks and I don't shy away from physical activity, but most of my day I'm stuck in the car, stuck at my desk, stuck at a keyboard. What do you, what do you recommend for people in their fifties like to get more in shape? One of my biggest fears is I'm going to take on a program and it's going to be one more thing that I got to try to fit into my schedule. It's going to be really difficult, time consuming. Is it worth it or is it? You know, can you do things in incremental ways?

Speaker 3:

You know that that is something that I used to be really passionate about and then I, over my business, and now since, become more passionate about and, yes, I believe that I could take this program that she's developed. Grab my elastic bands, pack them in my suitcase like you can take them anywhere. They're just bands and work with the resistance of those and whatever. If you take a 10 minute break in between editing your podcast and grabbing a coffee, you know, just do a few, just work a body part, and then I think you can. I think you can keep it up. I think there's a way to incorporate that into your day. You don't have to spend your, your hour, your solid hour, working out. I mean right, and you don't have to do it every day either. Yeah, To do it. Her program is three days a week. I do every workout just because I have a goal. I want to look my best, but you don't have to. But she does give me a workout every day.

Speaker 1:

Is she filming the videos that you're doing?

Speaker 3:

No, no no, I just. I have a chair and an iPhone.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you see, well, that's really well done, that's really, that's really great Inspirational. So, besides the fitness training, what are some of the other highlights of your journey towards this pageant? I guess clothes shopping, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Clothing is fun, a little bit challenging. Just for the gown, I haven't found one that I just fell in love with, yet I have. You know, I have okay gowns, but I don't want to. Just they'll do. Yeah, but a couple of highlights would be learning to walk in heels again after more than probably 15 years of not wearing high heels. Yes, that's been challenging. I broke my foot in July so that set me back a little bit, so I've been just starting to heal now and putting my heels on clocking around the house.

Speaker 1:

Was it because of heels that you broke your foot?

Speaker 3:

No, it's because of patio furniture and being uncoordinated and clumsy.

Speaker 1:

And so it's healed, because we saw you at the concert and you were wearing heels and you did fine.

Speaker 3:

I was, I've been, I've been slugging it out.

Speaker 1:

It's.

Speaker 3:

I mean it's feeling a lot better now and then. The one of the highlights of the whole pageant for me so far, just from my personal point of view, is the Westside Days Parade. When I had a, I was in it and sat on the back of a car and the reception I got from gosh everybody was remarkable. I couldn't even stop smiling, my cheeks hurt, waving at everyone, smiling and sharing, sharing moments with total strangers that were excited and happy, and it was very heartwarming, it was very encouraging.

Speaker 1:

Did tell us a little bit about Westside Days. For people who don't know what is that. What is that?

Speaker 3:

It's sort of a mini like or or, or fair, and it's like or stampede. You know that kind of thing. It's a West Cologne is version of uh, you get the parade and you've got the grants, a little bit of grandstand music in the park and the Ferris wheel and the spinning vomit comet and whatever else they have.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Mini donuts, all that kind of stuff Cool. So this was a parade and you're in the back of the convertible. Yeah, it was it was great.

Speaker 3:

And then I got to meet them as Miss Kelowna, lady of the lake, the float in in front of me and it was uh, yeah, half my, half my float ended up falling off the car and onto the pavement, but I didn't care. I'm like yeah, this is so great.

Speaker 1:

Has anybody, um, including Miss Kelowna, uh, given you advice about this, patch into or been a mentor to you besides the fitness training? Um, just tell you you know how to mentally prepare and what to expect.

Speaker 3:

I think the current Queens, um, they are. So I'm online and I there's a special, uh, social media area just for the people that are competing and they try and encourage you, give you tips um what they've experienced and and and things to do. But there is a lot of online information that I found. You know, pageant coaches, and it's it's free. I mean, you can sign up, but you can just YouTube it or there's quite a bit out there. So I've I've been doing, I've been taking bits and pieces from that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, hmm, so is um, what would you say?

Speaker 3:

your biggest fear of this pageant is like the high heels you mentioned and oh, absolutely High heels and a gown, yeah, yeah, falling on my face Right.

Speaker 1:

Like you, you looked fantastic at the concert. What was that two months ago, month ago?

Speaker 3:

Is that Chantocraviozic? Yeah, I don't think I was wearing heels that day. I think I had sandals on.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh, that's great yeah.

Speaker 3:

I think I probably just had some flip flops.

Speaker 1:

I thought you had like raised sandals, like heel sandals, but no, I don't know. But you said you know your ankle was broken.

Speaker 3:

I was like really yeah, no, what is my foot? Yeah, it's out of my foot.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, did you wear heels a lot when you were younger. Like is this something that?

Speaker 3:

when I was younger. Yeah, yeah. Like 40 years ago. Right, I see, I wore them all day served waitress.

Speaker 1:

Do you wear them every day now, and did you get strength training exercises for that?

Speaker 3:

I try to wear them on the treadmill for 10 minutes a day. That's fun.

Speaker 1:

Oh, neat. Yeah. So your personal and professional background. What are some of the qualities that you've developed over the years that you feel prepare you for this pageant?

Speaker 3:

I think, being in the business that I was in, most of my clientele, or a lot of the clients that came in were women over 50, that was the base of my eyewear sales and when they came in I saw that they were. Many of them were upset. They were going through menopause. They didn't like the way they looked. They didn't like that. They couldn't see very well anymore. They didn't like that. They were becoming invisible. They were becoming old and they were very.

Speaker 3:

I had women that had meltdowns and we just started with something small, like finding a pair of glasses that made them feel good, out of their comfort zone a little bit. I'm trying to push them towards not having not just kind of piling on with the granny glasses, but try something fun, try something a little bit bold. And it was very eye-opening because it happened every day. I'd have these conversations every single day with these women for a decade and it sure enough most of them would come back two weeks, sometimes the next day, sometimes two years later to get a new pair of glasses and they had changed. They were people were complimenting them, started with their glasses, so they had a new haircut and then they have new wardrobe and then they just started to say, like my platform, they just started to say yes to doing more things and embracing their age because it is beautiful.

Speaker 3:

These were beautiful women. They just felt they weren't. They were just different from when they were young. So that that beauty of youth, it changes. It changes for everybody and I think we all need to embrace that, because we're all going to get old and nobody is immune to that. If you're lucky, you'll get old and don't hate yourself for it. Love yourself for it.

Speaker 3:

You are, you have the experiences you have. You have so much more wisdom. Life is so good. My life since I've turned 45 till now I'm 59. Best years of my life.

Speaker 1:

Right, yeah, that's awesome. Do you think your demographic was that age group, because our vision deteriorates so rapidly? Right, you know, in our fifties?

Speaker 2:

Is that yeah?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so that's really interesting. I know our culture puts such a huge emphasis on beauty and youth, especially towards females, and so you saw a lot of women go through this and start to feel better about themselves over time. No-transcript, being a participant in the pageant changed your perspective on aging, or is it just continued evolution of the same thought process about you know, respecting yourself and appreciating your beauty? Even though we're older, it's still beautiful.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, those wrinkles, you've earned those.

Speaker 3:

Yeah that you don't. Things change. Things aren't as tight, they aren't as high. I mean, that's just the way it goes. But I think for me I mean I can only comment up to age 59 and I want to tell people younger than me they're like, oh man, she's so old. You know what I'm not? Well, I am, but it's been completely enjoyable. And what is what I really love about the pageant is now I can have the 69 and 79 year olds that are in this pageant and I can look at them and go, oh man, you're an inspiration for me.

Speaker 3:

I want to be you in 10, in 20 years. So I love that it's women who are helping supporting other women grow into their the aging process.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's really great. Yeah, I've noticed this. I get older. There's fewer people that I can look up to as like an older person, you know so, and we've got to help the younger people too, right.

Speaker 3:

Right.

Speaker 1:

So there's an interview process. Do you know what the questions are going to be, or are you allowed to talk about whatever you want, like? How does that?

Speaker 3:

go. No, they don't tell you what the questions are. You are interviewed and you just need to be prepared for anything. I believe is the best motto Right Be prepared for anything. Any question?

Speaker 1:

Now you do have a bit of a platform, like you're able to talk about things that are important to you.

Speaker 3:

I assume Absolutely my platform for the pageant is just say yes, power of saying yes.

Speaker 3:

Right, yeah, and keeping yes to yes to working out, yes to whatever you can do, whatever your body is physically able to do, whatever your mind is capable of, whatever your experiences are, just kind of keep saying yes, don't, don't stop that into your you know kind of fourth act of life. Don't don't just listen to the social norms about what old people are supposed to do and just sit in rocking chairs and knit. But no, is there any wrong with knitting? You love that? That's great yeah.

Speaker 1:

Right? Is that how you felt when you found the website or whatever you found online about this pageant? Like was it instant? This is something I need to do.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I had that feeling that I this looks really cool. I had no idea the depth of what I was getting into Right. But now that I'm in it, you know what I'm committed and I'm I'm going to try my best. I want to be an inspiration, I want to be inspired and if I can help anybody, you know, I mean, I'm built a business in my 50s. So I look back and that was when I was young. But a lot of people are going, wow, that was old. She was old. She, you know, designed, dreamed up and built a business in her 50s and sold it. So it can be done. And I just think that's an inspiration for those that are younger than me and those that are my age, those that are older than me. Well, they're, they're going to inspire me for sure.

Speaker 1:

Right? Are you required to attend any events or do anything, or just get ready and show up?

Speaker 3:

No, we're um because I I have a title right. I have to be actively out there. Um, and it's not required events Like they don't tell us what to do. We have to be involved in the community and I've always been involved in the community, so this is super fun and easy for me. I'm out there anyways. Yeah, I love talking to other people promoting other businesses, especially just with the fires. Like I, I have so much in my head right now about how many people have helped our community with food and volunteering.

Speaker 3:

There's so much that I would like to shout out to the world about what a great community spirit and and just being involved with the salvation army and working through the disaster. It's just incredible.

Speaker 1:

So today is August 27th. For those listening today, there's still quite a few people in need of help. Um, I think it was 150 homes were destroyed. I'm not sure exactly that. There's probably quite a quite a lot more that were badly damaged, like we. This is totally unrelated, but there was a car accident just a few blocks away and a truck went into someone's townhouse and they couldn't get inside for a couple of months. So, and having lived through the hurricane in 2004 in the Cayman Islands like there were areas where you just couldn't go, even if it was your stuff, your home, um, they just wouldn't let you in for a long, long time. So is there anything listeners could do to help out? Is it salvation army or is there a need that people could?

Speaker 3:

take care of. I mean, find a charity If you have a little bit extra money and donate some some money to the relief fund might know, mamas for mamas was huge. The salvation army disaster relief is what I was volunteering for. We were cooking meals not cooking but serving meals to firefighters and evacuees and local commercial oven and chefs were making hundreds of, not thousands of meals. It was incredible the participation. But just if you have time, donate your time. If you have clothes that you don't need to donate, if you like, whatever you can do, there's a lot of the Red Cross.

Speaker 1:

Um, you know, I don't know there's so much out there, there's just help, right? Yeah, I really liked that idea of donating time. I did it, uh, years ago when I didn't have any money, but it feels so, it really feels good to be able to help and everybody can donate a little bit of time 100% and same.

Speaker 3:

when I was starting up my business, I didn't have any money. Everything was invested in the business Every penny I had. But I had a little bit of time and that felt great. I donated time to just certain charities that I felt passionate about and and you help them. They need people.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, absolutely. So what does your schedule look like between now, august 27th, and November, when you're flying to Biloxi?

Speaker 3:

Oh, you know, I just um getting into kind of a different mindset, reviewing different questions in my head, um, I don't know. Practicing heels walking in heels, trying not to be clumsy and hurt myself again.

Speaker 1:

Right and uh, do you have any events that you have to take care of between now and then?

Speaker 3:

I have, Um, I have one fun one coming up. Um, you know, I'm going to do a lot of local shouting out to some people that have helped through the fires, but I have a fun football game that I'm attending. Um, uh, coming up here and I can't remember the date.

Speaker 1:

Okay, We'll. We'll post it in the show notes.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that would be great.

Speaker 1:

So what's happening at the game?

Speaker 3:

I'll just be there and it's. The firefighters will be there and I'll be just a fun football game. I'll be probably helping out with 50, 50 here, right, and I'll be able to get tickets or something like that yeah, cool, super cool.

Speaker 1:

So um, is there anybody would like to nominate to come on the show?

Speaker 3:

Uh, if I um thinking probably my trainer, tish Duffy. She's so incredible, Um, she would be great, uh, or wealth management um financial team. They have been just so financially supportive because pageants are not cheap, right Um and um, you know. The other sponsor that has helped me is Jenny McKinney. She's a local makeup artist and she's giving me some lessons on how to prepare my face for the stage.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome.

Speaker 3:

So I think if I had to pick three people, those would be the top three.

Speaker 1:

Is uh? Is the makeup very different for a pageant than what you would normally do if you were having?

Speaker 3:

a night out, oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So it's a very fancy dinner where you're fully dressed up like it's different, totally different.

Speaker 3:

because you have your, you have to be seen from far away. So if you just do something beautiful and subtle, nobody's going to see you. So you have to have quite the face on quite a bit of makeup, bagel, ashes, the whole thing.

Speaker 1:

That's a real science to that to be seen from a distance right.

Speaker 3:

But still look good and not clownish.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Right, jay Leno saying they went to high definition television I think it was like 30 years ago and he said they had to redo all the makeup because when the those TVs came out it looked like total cake and they had to reconceive all the different things that they applied. So you still have to, you know, stand out, but a little less thick. So, yeah, those are some great nominations, so we'll get. We'll get in touch with them and see if they're interested in coming on the show. We want to wish you all the best for the pageant. We're going to be following you, so Instagram is the best place to.

Speaker 3:

Instagram is my my go to. Yeah, I play around with Tik Tok and everything that I post on Instagram on my mat, so just all goes to Facebook as well, but Instagram's a place for me.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so we will follow you there and all the best of luck for for the pageant.

Speaker 3:

Thank you, luke, thank you very much.

Speaker 1:

Great to see you, thank you.